The 95 Podcast: Conversations for Small-Church Pastors
95% of churches in the U.S. are under 500 in average attendance. Small and mid-size churches truly are the backbone of the Church in America. Join 95Network Executive Director Dale Sellers as he hosts conversations that specifically relate to the small and mid-size church context.
The 95 Podcast: Conversations for Small-Church Pastors
PODCAST RECAST: When Everything Feels Like Your Fault: Freedom, Responsibility, and Identity (w/ Bob Hamp) - Episode 342
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Today's conversation was previously aired on May 13, 2025.
In this episode, Dale talks with Bob Hamp from Think Differently Academy about one of the most common assumptions pastors carry: “It must be my fault.” Together, we unpack the crucial difference between fault and responsibility, showing how fault leads to shame while responsibility creates freedom. Bob explains why many leaders take ownership of things they were never meant to control—and how that mindset quietly fuels burnout, anxiety, and people-pleasing.
The conversation also explores how family-of-origin patterns shape leadership, why old fears and insecurities can feel so convincing, and why lasting transformation requires more than simply knowing the truth intellectually. Bob offers a hopeful framework for understanding how God rewires unhealthy patterns over time, helping leaders move from shame and self-blame toward greater peace, clarity, and freedom. If you've ever felt responsible for everyone else's outcomes, this episode will challenge the way you think and help you begin thinking differently.